I want to thank you for taking the trouble to send off the two
sample packs of .44 bullets sized to .432". I never asked the price.
I found it incredibly fair. What’s more important, I’m absolutely
delighted with my range test results.
It’s no surprise that the
240 grain TCBB
bullets outperformed the
200 grain RNFP
bullets. What’s really important is that the
240 grain TCBB
bullets sized to .432" are more accurate by a wide margin than any
other bullets I’ve tested in this particular Browning B92. As I
stated earlier, the bore slug miked at .4315" which accounts for the
mediocre to lousy performance with .430" bullets.
As soon as I’ve finished this e-mail I’ll be going to your web site
to order 1,000 240
grain TCBB bullets sized to .432".
Also note that I’m perfectly happy with
conventionally lubed bullets as opposed to coated bullets. A Model
92 should smoke when it goes off.
Again, thanks for the help. It’s a delight doing business with you.
Doug L. (04/23/18)
Brion C. asked me to send you the results of my rifle build and
reloads using your bullets.
My rifle started out as a Winchester 94ae. I sent it to J.E.S. in
Oregon for a rebore from 30-30 to 38-55.
When I got it back I did a chemical faux case coloring to the metal
parts and fit new stocks and added a saddle ring.
I also added a Skinner peep sight on the rear of the receiver.
I purchased some Black Hills ammo and also some Starline brass.
I found you on the internet, called you, bought bullets, and you
sent me to Brion.
And it all came together!
The three shots over the bull were sight in rounds using Black
Hills. It was on a rest at fifty yards.
The three shot group at the 10 o’clock position were my reloads
using Starline brass, 28.5 grains of IMR 3031 and your
38-55 FPBB bullets.
Wow, less than a one inch group. And they are hotter!
I’m beyond happy!
Keep up the good work!
Thank you for everything
Glenn S. (04/2217)
Thanks for your call today. I
appreciate your time.
As we discussed I enjoy my Savage 116 Weather Warrior in 30-06.
It’s a standard off the shelf gun with no mods.
It shoots your
180 grain RNFPBB .30 caliber cast bullets (.309") and Titegroup
with good accuracy. I’ve had success with 8 + grains but near 9
grains was best. OAL is 3.130".
No leading and easy cleaning.
Titegroup is good also in my 30-30
Winchester. I worked up from 5.5 grains with your
150 grain RNFPBB .30 caliber bullets (.310") and OAL is 2.520".
Heats up the barrel a bit but shoots clean.
Green Dot also works well with .30 caliber
cast bullets in these days of no powder on the shelves.
I’ve had great success with an Arisaka
Type 99 re-chambered to 30-06 and your
180 grain RNFPBB .30 caliber cast bullet (.312").
6.5 grains of Green Dot was nice.
Also a 32-20 cast bullet with 7 grains of
Green Dot is very good.
.30 caliber cast bullets also work well with my Savage 06 and
Winchester 30-30 worked up with Green Dot butTitegroup was better.
Lots of low recoil, reduced and accurate
This is with an old World Class scope on the Savage and open sights
on the Arisaka Type 99 and the Winchester 30-30.
All testing was at 100 yards off a pant
leg with cat litter fill at public range here in PA.
I load with all Lee equipment and a Lee hand loader.
There’s lots of room for improvement.
I know enough to be safe and I’m in the process of upgrading my
optics and reloading equipment.
This is a very nice sport.
Have a great evening!
Pete G. (10/25/16)
Thanks for the reply Robert.
I'll keep an eye on the website.
Don't know if this is of interest to you or not but I thought I'd
send it along.
The bullet on the left is your
320 grain .432 diameter SSK with Casull alloy that I shorten to
.965" from .980", to help stabilize and eliminate key holing.
The bullet is fired from my 444 Marlin with the Microgroove rifling
at a measured 2400 fps. The bullets weight is reduced to 318 grains
due to the shortening. The upset bullet was recovered from a very
tough old wet piece of Douglas Fir.
The bullet was fired from 15 yards and penetrated approximately 12
Retained weight is 290 grains with a nice mushroom.
The bullet on the right is .375 caliber
Hornady 300 grain round nose fired into the same piece of Douglas
Fir at 15 yards at 2550 fps from my 375 Ruger.
Penetration was approximately 14 inches.
Retained weight is 138 grains.
Both bullets traveled in a straight path but the majority of the
wood destruction goes to the Marlin.
This Marlin round was primarily developed for close range Grizzly
Bear defense and it is assuring to know that if Yogi takes one in
the peepers it’s going to exit his back pocket.
Thanks again for a great bullet.
Blair S. (09/21/16)
Yesterday I fired a three shot group from a rest at 200 yards on 12
in gong that was 1 1/2 inches using your .38
caliber 158 grain TCBB bullet in Uberti 1873 Winchester clone
chambered in .357 magnum.
I did it two times yesterday - and
that after retinal surgery in my shooting eye with eyesight now
limited to 20/60 corrected.
The rifle has iron sights - tang peep
and front bead.
The load is 11 grains of IMR 4227,
Starline 357 magnum brass, and Federal #100 small pistol magnum
Brian H. (03/23/16)
Imagine my surprise when I open my most recent order and
unexpectedly discovered your new poly coated red bullets (38 TCBB
I'm just now reloading this batch and wanted to wait till I fired
500 rounds, but I can't contain my excitement. These bullets are
While I never had leading issues in the bore of my revolver, I was
constantly fighting lead accumulation on the face of the cylinder,
around the outside cylindrical surface of the forcing cone, and
under the top strap in the corner when it meets the face of which
the firing pin comes through. These areas are now completely free of
lead. Gun cleanup is now much much easier overall.
The smoke is way down. Okay it does smell a little like burning
plastic, but its slight and who cares.
I have only fired 100 rounds but can see no effect on accuracy.
During reloading I find no shaving when seating so I didn't even
pull a few bullets to examine their surface. I resized a few and
found the coating stays in place, but your dimensions are so tight
that a 0.358" die used on a 0.358" ordered bullet causes little
pressure on the side walls when pushed through the die.
I can't wait to run through my current supply of .45 caliber bullets
so that I can reorder them in their coated version.
Greg T. (02/17/16)
The sun came out yesterday and I raced to the range
for testing the .45/70 bullets you sent.
300 grain RNFPBB was loaded with 49 grains of IMR 3031 - WLR primer.
Results: 3 inch (3shot) group @100 yards. Velocity -
1620 fps @ 10feet.
350 grain RNFPBB was loaded with 50 grains of IMR 3031 - WLR primer.
Results: 2 inch (3shot) group @ 100 yards. Velocity -
1770 fps @ 10feet.
405 grain RNFPBB was loaded with 46 grains of IMR 3031 - WLR primer.
Results: 3.5 - 4 inch (4 shot) group @100 yards.
Velocity - 1620 fps @ 10 ft.
I did chronograph two rounds of each size prior to the
scope sight in with the 300 grain (16 rounds) to begin the group testing. I used
three different crosshair holds points to clearly distinguish the three groups.
Started with a lapped barrel and did not clean
throughout the test (28 rounds).
I am satisfied that I can get three inch groups of
lead bullets at 100 yards at 1600-1700 fps.
The two rounds of 350 grain LazerCast from previous
test using 25grains of H4198 produced 900 fps and very soft recoil. I did not
group this load. I was not comfortable with the soft recoil. This load may be
approaching "too light a charge" for safety in my twenty-two inch barrel Marlin
Thanks for your help on this test. I’m convinced your
350 grain RNFPBB lead bullet design is superior to the Lazercast 350 grain
bullet. Your bearing area length is 40% longer (only one grease groove and
smaller chamfer) and the bullet nose length is shorter than the length of
bearing area. I believe that contributes to more stable bullet balance in the
barrel and spin flight similar to a density issues in the lead.
Frankly, I was shocked at the two inch group of your
350 grain RNFPBB bullet.
I only rested the shouldered rifle on the magazine
tube on a bag of small rocks on a small wooden stand on the wooden bench. No
fixed rifle rest.
Thanks for your help with my problem.
Douglas R. (01/25/16)
I ordered these bullets (.44
Caliber 185 Grain Double Bevel Base Wadcutter), a while back and just had
chance to test them.
I loaded them up with my first loads for my S&W
model 69 44 magnum and mounted a new J Point red dot sight on it.
I set up a target at 20 yards and shot 15 rounds
to sight it in well enough to group shoot while resting on my range bag.
I have been loading and shooting 44 magnums since
This is the first time that my first load with
Unique was as far as I needed to go.
Also, the coating had some chipping - probably
from sizing or shipping. BUT this did not effect accuracy.
I will try to attach a photo (77 years old - no
computer whiz) showing 5 shots at 20 yards while resting over my range bag.
GREAT JOB. No leading, loads clean, and super
T M M (12/29/15)
This is just a quick note to let you know I'm delighted with the
.38 caliber 125 grain TCBB and
.38 caliber 158 grain TCBB bullets.
These are intended for and cycle through my Rossi
R92 as slick as can be. The 30" twist in the R92 barrel doesn't really stabilize
the 158 grain bullets at the velocities I load, but that's no surprise. The 125
grain bullets shoot very well.
I have five 38 revolvers and two 357 revolvers, so the 158s will get used up
I'll be back next month for a real working supply
Thanks for providing an excellent product.
Douglas L. (08/13/15)
Just thought I would share a couple of my
experiences with your bullet in a couple of my Sharps rifles.
First let me say that at just shy of sixty-seven and having spent almost fifty
years of being kicked around by various guns I finally wised up and now shoot
what for lack of a better term could be called "wimp loads".
When I got my Cimarron "Down Under" in 45-70 I started looking for a lighter
bullet to shoot. I tried the 350 grain plated but while they shot well they just
did not look right. That is what led me to try your
370 grain Spitzers. I loaded them over 31grains of IMR 4198 and Winchester
Large Rifle primers and crimped in the crimp groove. This load produces about
1350 fps out of my 32" sharps and will regularly give me sub 2.5 inch groups
benched at 100 yards. This with Creedmoor sights. It is also very pleasant to
I just purchased a 45-120 Sharps sporting rifle and having no desire to shoot
535 grain Postell loads that the former owner threw in I purchased some
Norma Brass and loaded up several with 29 grains of Trail Boss and your
370 grain Spitzers seated to midway on the front band with a light crimp.
Again I was using Winchester Large Rifle primers. Off the bench, after sighting
in, I was so impressed that we set up a target at 200 yards. Again with
Creedmoor sights off the bench this rifle put 4 of 5 rounds into less than 3"
with the 5th round opening the group to 4.5 inches. I have not chronographed
this load but I suspect it is also at about 1325 -1375 fps.
To say I am impressed with the performance of your bullet would be an
understatement. The groups with my old eyes and the Creedmoor sights have been
excellent and I have had no leading in either of these rifles. And as a last
added plus they just look so right when paired with the Sharps rifles.
Very Respectfully Yours
Chip K. (06/14/15)
grain SWCBB and
grain SWCBB bullets worked very well.
I’m pushing them with WST powder and for Bullseye short line (twenty-five yards)
I’m loading at 4.2 grains, and for long line (fifty yards) I use 4.5 grains.
My Springfield cycles well and the bullets are quite accurate to called shot.
I won the Expert class Centerfire match, and tied overall Aggregate (got beat on
I’ll load the remaining 180s, and a series of 200s, for a match coming up in
mid-July, and will split them between Centerfire and 45 matches.
Just to let you know I shot some
335 grain Thunderheads and also some
420 grain Thunderheads with both H110 and HS6 for reduced loads.
I went to the range to just fire the loads, not concentrating on trigger
This is a 475 Linebaugh!
Your bullets preformed superbly even with my minimal concentration factored
I've got some superb base loads to work with now.
No lead deposits, easy case extraction , and superb accuracy off hand
without even trying hard.
Thanks for an excellent product.
Mike P. (02/22/15)
I found your site on the web and I was interested in bullets for a XDM 460
Rowland and also for LAR Grizzly 45 Win Mag.
Both of these are carried as backup protection while hunting in Alaska.
I recently received some of your Penn Bullets
.452, 255grain RNFPBB Hardcast and
230grain TCBB Hardcast to load for a 460 Rowland.
When I first contacted you, you weren’t very familiar with the 460 Rowland
so I felt obligated to share some feedback.
I have loaded some of each and shot them.
I couldn’t be more impressed.
Attached is a snapshot of the very first target with the 255gr RNFPBB at 20
yards, out of a Springfield XDM 460 Rowland 4.5”(compensated).
The load is 11.5 grains of AA#7 and bullet seated to 1.235 O.A.L..
Per Quickload Ballistics Program this load produces 34633 psi and estimated
velocity of 1057 fps. Cartridge SAAMI max is 40000 psi.
This load actually chronographed at 1104 fps average over a 10 shot group
with a standard deviation of 14.08012784 fps. Talk about consistency!!!
I have since stepped up the load to cartridge SAAMI max with the same shot
I have also loaded the 230gr TCBB to a 1.235” O.A.L. with the same awesome
Neither load produces barrel leading.
Thanks for a great product.
Feel free to share this info with any and all.
I will be contacting you soon for some 45/70 405gr.
Palmer Alaska (01/05/15)
From your letter it sounds like you’re not only the president but also the chief
cook and bottle washer.
I bought 250 of your .45 caliber Thunder Heads and am I ever pleased!
They’re everything it states them to be on your web site.
They arrived today and I couldn’t wait to try them.
No good test material so some 4x4s and old oak had to be my backstops.
Wow did the wood fly!
I’ll order more tomorrow.
I hope this finds you well.
I am writing to update you on Amira Sleem's 2014 performance
at the Canton Ohio Regional, and Camp Perry Championships.
The July 4th weekend at Canton was a total sweep.
Canton is considered the Perry Pre Match, or Perry test.
She was High Woman and won nearly every individual match
shooting PENN Bullets with a 2596-86X, which is one of the very highest scores
shot by any woman in the USA currently.
She easily won the Law Enforcement Expert class with a 160
She placed 2nd overall woman at Camp Perry, the following
week, while winning numerous individuals matches, high expert police, and was
high woman in the Preliminary Match.
She has gone from zero to Master in a short five years,
shooting PENN Bullets!!!
Bob, thank you very much for a superior product and service.
Engineered Revolvers & Automatics (07/29/14)
has officially become a member of the 2600 club as of 2 August 2014 with a 2606
at the Cavallier R&P Club, Montpelier, Va. registered match.
She won high over all shooter to take the match.
I believe she is the first woman to win the overall in the
history of that range.
Engineered Revolvers & Automatics (08/05/14)
This is just a note to compliment you and your .452" bullets.
I have been shooting .45 ACP a lot this year, and when I make
them I run them through a .45 ACP Chamber Checker.
Just about every one of them passes with ease.
About 1 in 500 seems to have a questionable fit, and that is
usually corrected by re-crimping them again and wiping them again to get rid of
the excess wax.
bullets, I have had no mis-feeds or stove pipes.
In the past, I had some Georgia Arms .452" - 200 grain RNFP
bullets, and at least 15% of them failed in passing the chamber checker test.
I was having a big problem with mis-feeds.
Keep up the good quality work.
John H. B., Jr. (06/17/14)
Last year I shot the attached target during a string of timed
fire (5 shots 20 seconds at 25 yards).
You make a quality bullet and I'm looking forward to getting
my next order and getting to the range after a little break from shooting.
On another note, the break you give to Law Enforcement,
Military and Disabled Veterans is much appreciated.
Gun: Springfield Armory Custom Shop 1911
9mm 115 grain SWCBB
Load: 3.8 grains of Winchester 231
Pat K. (05/14/14)
We spoke yesterday and today I got your voicemail that said
to email you.
I have four .357 magnum lever guns that simply do not shoot
well enough with the Meister hard cast 158 grain RNFP (sized at .358”) to shoot
cowboy lever action pistol silhouette.
I have two Uberti 73 Winchesters, the rifle with a 24” barrel
and the short rifle with a 20” barrel. I also have two Marlin 1894s, the 1894C
You said to mike the groove diameter and we would go from
there. I miked the Marlins and the CB was .3563” and the C was .3591”.
The Uberti which I can mike is .3556”. My other Uberti is
with a friend for testing. At fifty yards she put four shots in one cloverleaf
hole and two almost touching which were only about 1 /4” away from the
cloverleaf, but she had three flyers which were two inches or more way from the
cloverleaf. At one hundred yards I can’t hit a twelve inch gong with that load.
Any advice would be welcome as to hardness, size, powder,
I would like to try your 158 grain TCBB in any event. I also
would also like to try the 180 grain TCBB at 200 yards if I can get them to
We have a kid kicking our butts with a Browning low-wall at
two hundred yards offhand gong shoot using .357 magnum. I bet he is using a
Thanks for your consideration.
I would try the 158 grain TCBB sized to 357” diameter for the Uberti and the
tight Marlin. For the loose Marlin you need it sized to .359”.
The 180 grain TCBB is also good with its long bearing surface
which aids to increased accuracy but you will need to run a magnum load.
I would try some increased loads behind the 158 TCBBs with
some slower medium to magnum speed powders. Get the load up to 1200+ fps and
see how that works. I have .357” diameter 158 TCBBs in stock right now and can
do some at .359” for the other gun. I can probably get you some 180 TCBBs to
test magnum loads for that one.
Thank you for letting me be of service.
Robert Palermo - President
Robert you are the boss!
We don’t own any handguns so I am behind the eight ball here on magnum
pistol loads so I will consult the loading manuals.
Please send me your suggested bullet sizes, five hundred each for openers.
Let me know when you want the credit card information.
Your 158 grain .357” TCBB’s over 11.0 grains of IMR
4227 (chronographs about 1260 fps) changed both our Uberti 73s completely
around. Before we couldn’t hit a twelve inch gong at one hundred yards from
bench using 158 grain RNFPs.
Now we EXPECT to hit a sixteen inch gong offhand at two
hundred yards using your truncated cone bullets.
If we miss now it is not the load or the rifle’s fault!
I finally got a chance to try the .357 diameter
125 grain TCBB bullets for the python.
They perform very well over 16.5 grains of 2400.
I'm glad I got the 70 pound pack.
I thought you may get a kick out of these pictures of the
Sphinix 3000 9mm and the seven of the first fifteen shots I put through it.
This load is using the
9mm 147 TCBB you sent down, AA #5, Federal #100, and mixed brass.
The S&W Pro Series 1911 9mm seems to like that combo fairly
well also. It has had one box of WWWB hardball through it and the target is five
of the first eleven handloads it has had through it.
Both guns have had very little shooting, at this point.
While certainly not bullseye stuff I'm satisfied for a
sixty-six year old man who has had cataract surgery on his shooting eye.
As usual you bullets perform better than the launcher.
James R. (03/01/14)
Sir, I have been loading some of your 44 TCBBs that you sent
me earlier this summer and all I can say is WOW!
180 TCBBs didn't work that well in my Ruger 77/44 for accuracy but were
amazing out of my short barreled 44s.
My wife wants to thank you, shooting them out of a Bulldog
worked very well.
Now to the
240 TCBBs; the Ruger really liked those.
Using 4227 at the upper end of book loads was best and two
inch groups were easy. Keep in mind this gun has never been a stellar performer
and those two inch groups are the best it’s done so far including factory.
Please tell everyone, “Good job, great bullets.”
One question, I know your very busy right now but I was
wondering when the 44 thunderheads will become available?
Please put me down for 500 whenever you start.
Richard O. (11/02/13)
Hey Mr. Robert;
I ordered some of your
.45 caliber 200 grain TCPB bullets and I am very pleased with them.
I used to reload a lot in the 90s for my .45 but slowly got
out of it and I started back about a year ago for obvious reasons.
I used jacked bullets back in the day but decided this time
to use cast bullets.
I did some research and ordered small quantities from seven
different casters including Penn Bullets.
I can honestly say your bullets really are better.
The lube was consistently in the groove and not smeared all
over the bullet and it was not dry and cracked.
The bullets were well formed, all of them, and the weight
deviation of your bullets was almost nonexistent.
None of the other casters came close!
I had e-mailed for load data and you suggested 5.0 grains of
HP 38 and an OAL of 1.200" for my .45 ACP.
I attached a picture of a target that was shot at 20 yards
I'm not changing a thing!
Thank you for making an excellent cast bullet.
Trace H. (09/02/13)
Hope this finds you well.
I wanted to give you an update on Amira Sleem, the woman
shooting your bullets in competition.
She had a great year up to and including the 2013 Canton,
Ohio Regional Championships.
She has not lost a match in the last two years.
At the 2013 Canton, Ohio Regional Championships she again won
the expert police class. This makes it three years in a row! She had 11 first
place individual match wins and 4 high woman awards. She was also High Woman
with the .45.
Now the news is less happy when it comes to Perry.
The weather was horrible with wind, rain, and mud / water up
to their ankles on the firing line. She finished 60 points under her average on
.22 day, due to high winds, and never recovered from that. Perry was a wash out
for her. She took it hard, but was back on the range this week training again
for upcoming matches. She has been shooting low 2560s, so she is soon to be a
Bob, I can’t say enough about your bullets. There is NEVER
any lead build-up in the chamber / barrel, which is extremely important for
accuracy. Your alloy mix is on the money.
Thank you for such for a consistently great product.
We have enough bullets to get thru the year, but I will be
contacting you this winter and planning to drive up to Pennsylvania for load of
Is there any news on the match bullet you were developing?
Not that I am unhappy at all with the present design.
You need not reply to my email. I just wanted to take the time to say thank you
to you and your staff for your wonderful product and to take the time to do
There are a number of good bullet makers out there who can't
even come close to your level of commitment.
It is sad to see the absolute panic that has gripped this
nation and wonder if we will all be able to learn a lesson from this.
Keep up the good work,
We e-mailed a couple of times last week about load data for
your 9mm 120 grain TCBB bullet.
With 5.4 grains of HS6 and an OAL of 1.055” I am getting an
average of 1090 fps and absolutely superb accuracy.
I am working up a load for a brand new Kimber Pro that I
have. This is my first Kimber and it must have a tight chamber. If I chamber a
round and try to eject it the slide is stuck forward and very hard to eject.
I have four other 9mms and the same round will chamber and
eject by hand without any trouble in all four of them (Beretta 92F, Springfield
EMP, Kahr PM9, and a S&W MP).
I measured the outside of the loaded cartridge and with the
9mm 120 grain TCBB and it measures .377” at the mouth of the case with a taper
crimp. I made a dummy round with the dies set the same and used a Winchester
115grain FMJ bullet and it measures .376” and it chambers and ejects just fine.
The 120 grain TCBB bullets that I am using are your standard
size of .356”.
I want to order some more of these bullets and was wandering
if I should order your optional size of .355” or do you want me to slug the
barrel and send it to you first?
Thank you very much in advance for your continued support.
Your very well pleased and loyal customer,
James A. (05/17/13)
I thought you may get a grin out of these pictures.
You may recall I mentioned my love / hate relationship with
the Taurus PT1911SS .45 ACP that I bought as a beater 1911 a few years ago. I
liked the way it shot but its workmanship just couldn’t pass muster.
I mentioned to a shooting acquaintance that I was going to
sell it and he said he was interested.
As I knew him I offered to let him shoot it first and loaded
up some ammo for it. (Your
200 grain SWCBB Target Grade with 5.6 grains of ww231.)
When he came to try it out he wasn’t interested in shooting
any of my ammo and had brought some of his own ‘special loads’ that he always
After he shot a few of his loads it wasn’t looking too
promising to make a sale.
figured I had better take the bull by the horns (or the Taurus by the grip) and
let him see what it was capable of with a good load.
(I did bobble however and only four of the five are
say he bought the pistol!
I have been shooting your bullets for 25+ years, since I
bought the first ones at the OGCA show at the IX center in Cleveland, and they
have always been top notch. The high quality has never wavered from that first
box purchase so many years ago to the last ones you sent down.
James R. (01/04/13)
PS That load shoots pretty well in my S&W PC1911 also!
I loaded up my first batch of 45 ACP loads with your
200 grain SWCBB Target bullet over 4.4 grains of WST, with 1.25” OAL and
Here’s what I got!
Now these were shot at 25’ from a sandbag, not quite a real
test, I just wanted to test if they would feed well, but I put a target
Left target is a 1.2” group and on the right is a 0.80” group
(there are five holes in there! - Close up picture provided in case someone says
“No picture, didn’t happen.”).
Thanks Bob, that was the easiest and best reloading
experience I’ve had so far!
In reality, I’m finished, I can just load up a whole bunch
and work on my shooting skills at the range. But it’s getting cold out and I
will be at the reloading bench in the evening, so I will experiment some.
John S. (12/08/12)
I am pleased to tell you that Amira Sleem, the female shooter I sponsor, had a very
successful two weeks at the Canton, Ohio Regional Championships, and the Camp
Perry National Championships.
Amira, who is a detective with the Richmond, VA police department, won High Woman Police Shooter and won the Police Expert Class at both
matches easily. She shot nothing but Penn Bullets at every event.
She received numerous comments regarding Penn Bullets at both matches.
Thank you for all your help, and for a great product.
Engineered Revolvers & Automatics
2330 Goodluck Road
Maidens, VA 23102
Thanks Bob (Penn Bullets) for all your help to make this gun start to shoot.
I fully lapped the barrel and I got less leading.
The next set of tests will have Lee Alox on the bullets.
Now I need to shoot it, and shoot it, and shoot some more.
Thanks to Bear Paw Grips - the grips are the best.
The two of you have greatly helped me. I highly recommend these grips; they are
thicker on top and smaller with flat sides toward the bottom.
I use 5.5 grains of Trail Boss with a
Penn cast 255 grain .45 caliber RNFPBB bullets sized to .455".
This style of handgun is a challenge for me to shoot. I am sure on a bench or in
the hands of someone else, the group would be half this size.
Shickshinny, PA (06/06/12)
I bought some of your .40
caliber 165 grain TCBB bullets a couple of years ago and finally got around
to shooting some of them.
Wow! The groups completely blew away any jacketed stuff I
have sent through my SIG P229 and Hi-Point carbine, including hollow points and
Ranier encapsulated pills.
No FF’s or FE’s whatsoever!
Didn’t amp them too much (5 grains of HP-38) so had no barrel
lead whatsoever. They were also very good with 7.2 grains of HS-6.
I think I might have a couple thousand jacketed .40 cal
bullets for sale!
Thanks for a great product!
Jessup, MD (04/16/12)
Attached are targets showing the excellent results obtained
.45 caliber 225 grain .452 diameter wadcutter bullets in my S&W model 25
using 45 auto rim cases.
At 25 yards from a hand rest I can get 10 ring accuracy using
Winchester 231 powder from 3.8 to 5.2 grains.
I settled on 4.4 grains as the best choice for accuracy,
velocity and recoil.
From the ransom Rest the gun will shoot Quarter size groups
at 25 yards.
Hanna City, IL (02/27/12)
I HAVE BEEN EXPERIMENTING WITH THE .44
CALIBER 205 GRAIN TCPB 12 BHN BULLET AT YOUR RECOMMENDED .431” SIZED
REMEMBER THIS IS WITH MY 5.5” BLACKHAWK WITH .4313” CYLINDERS
AND .4293” BORE. NO SPEED BUMPS DURING SLUGGING WITH LBT TECH SLUGGING KIT.
FIRST OF ALL THERE IS ZERO LEADING IN THE BORE AND CYLINDER
FACES. EXCELLENT! I CLEAN EVERY 50 ROUNDS OR SO TO BE SURE.
I USE WINCHESTER BRASS AND PRESENTLY CCI 300 PRIMERS.
I RECENTLY SHOT A BENCHED, VERY NICE X RING SIZED GROUP AT 25
YARDS ON A 25 YARD NRA TARGET. THAT’S ABOUT 1-1/2”. THIS WAS WITH 7.8 GRAINS OF
ACCURATE #5 @ ABOUT 800 FPS. THAT WAS CHRONO SPEED WITH .430” DIAMETER AWHILE
BACK. DON’T THINK THE .431” WOULD CHANGE THAT IF AT ALL?
THAT’S ABOUT AS GOOD AS I CAN DO WITH 80 YEAR OLD EYES ON A
I ALSO HAVE BEEN TRYING UNIQUE, HP38, AND BULLSEYE THAT I
HAVE A GOOD SUPPLY OF AS WELL. BUT I HAVEN'T DEVELOPED THE BEST LOADS YET. BUT
THERE IS ZERO LEADING WITH ANY OF THESE POWDERS AS WELL. THIS HARDNESS AND .431”
DIAMETER IS THE WAY TO GO WITH THIS GUN.
I recently acquired a SW 952 9mm target gun for use in
various Bulls-eye center-fire matches.
I wanted to try a semi wad-cutter for the 9mm and upon
looking around Penn Bullets is about the only company making a H&G style
for this particular caliber.
115 grain SWC)
I ordered 500 and was impressed by quality upon opening the
The variance in weight among the bullets was extremely low
and only 1 bullet lacked lubricant.
Testing turned out to be better than expected.
I have attached a target shot at 40 yards with this bullet
using a pistol rest.
I believe the distance from center to center was 1.4 inches
which is more than adequate for shooting in tournaments.
If this target was shot out of a Ransom rest it may have been
Keep up the good work.
Robert C. (02/07/12)
I have just visited your web site for the first time as I am
in South Australia.
I am a keen Lever Action shooter
I have a Marlin 30-30 and have just brought a Oliver F.
Winchester commemorative 38-55 unfired rifle which I am going to use.
I wish you were over here as your products sound great and
your site is very informative with specs and so on.
I have emailed some makers of projectiles to get information
but didn't hear from them. But you have all this on your site already.
Great work to you and the site maker.
South Australia (01/21/12)
Got the order.
The (158 grain)
.358 TCBB shoots much much better than the SWC I had been using
Oviedo, FL (01/05/12)
I got my order yesterday, thank you for your help.
My scale says they are 198.5 grain and the deviation at its
worst is 1.5 grain out of the 25 I measured.
They are much better than your competition produces
I will just have to remember to order a lot further ahead the
I will be buying more.
James W. H.
York, PA (12/13/11)
My order for 10mm bullets arrived today. They were worth the
wait. They are EVERYTHING your website indicated they would be. Well shaped,
nice flat metplate and well lubed -- unlike some competitors bullets I looked
Your bullets look as good as my old casting without the work.
Dayton, OH (12/08/11)
This morning I
received my order for 500 ea of
255 grain .45 cal bullets, custom sized.
I divided them into more manageable containers of 100 ea for
placing in shelving. I would like to say your count was more than generous,
the quality of the bullets exceeded anything I have received from ANYONE
else, and your prices are nearly unbelievable, including the low fee for
When any of my existing supplies of lead bullets become low,
you are the only supplier I will consider, especially with your amazing
variety of choices in caliber and bullet design.
I will recommend you to all of the lead using shooters I
Ravensdale, WA (06/25/11)
Hope all is well.
I just wanted to say thank you so much for the bullets (they
just arrived yesterday). I really appreciate your generosity.
The cards are already in my cart.
I've been talking to quite a few people lately about your
bullets and I've been directing them to your website. Hopefully, it's
getting you some new customers.
Penn Bullets did it again! Using your
.357 / 125 TC bullets, I was able to win the SASS 2011 PA State Men's
Championship. Your bullets continue to load easily, function flawlessly,
and hit solidly. They are, by far, the most consistent bullets I've ever
Thank you for a fantastic product!
(Biloxi Bob) (06/09/11)
I got the balance of my order. Thank you! Everything looked
I took your advice for my .40. Worked Great!
I wanted you to know, my wife Sherry, son Will & I took a
Concealed Carry Class we hosted at our hunt club, over the weekend. We were
all certified. We used your bullets to qualify. I shot a perfect score with
a tight 30 shot group at 15 and 25 feet, rapid fire. The three of us shot
three of the best top four scores! There were 18 in the class, some with
military and professional training.
We love Penn Bullets!!!
Thanks again and best regards!
Mike M. (5/09/11)
I wanted to tell you how happy I am with the quality and
performance of your product.
I special ordered (.357” diameter and premium
.38 caliber 158 grain TCBB bullets to shoot from a Smith and Wesson 686 plus revolver.
Prior to this order, I did not have a loyalty to any
particular brand of bullet, which meant that I had several other rounds to shoot
and compare your product with.
Simply and honestly said, there was a meaningful and
noticeable difference in the accuracy of your product.
With so many vendors promising the accuracy in their product,
I have found it rare that that someone actually delivers.
Moreover, I can further say that these were actually worth
the wait (delayed given that this was a special run because of the reduced
I must further say that I would probably feel foolish
ordering from anyone else.
Don H. (04/07/11)
I just bought 1,000 of your
.45 200 grain SWCBB - Match bullets.
I could not be more pleased!
The first target I fired with my handloads, using 4.5 grains
of Bullseye, mixed brand cases, Winchester primers, was a shock to me. As I
fired the rounds, using a sandbag rest, and my most accurate 45 ... a Les Baer,
I felt good, but when I walked up to the 25 yd, B8CT target, and measured the
group, it was 1 1/4", all inside the X-ring. I have had a few targets that good
using Bull-X bullets, but I must say that I am very impressed with your
I fired a five-shot group that day with the same pistol using
Federal Premium 185 grain SWC Match ammo. It only fired a 1" group, all inside
Considering the difference in price, I again must say ...
GREAT ... concerning your cast bullets.
Gilbert R. (04/04/11)
I just want you to know I am using my second thousand of your
grain plain base .44's.
I am very pleased with these bullets and will be ordering
more before long.
I shoot them from my Super Blackhawk Hunter at about 950 fps.
I usually clean this revolver about every 250 rounds, which I
just did, and as usual there was absolutely no leading. Just a few marks or
streaks in the barrel that brushed right out.
I have fired them at about 1200 fps and they still didn't
lead my barrel.
Whatever you are doing, please continue doing it.
V. W. (03/31/11)
I just finished shooting up my first order of your
115 grain 9mm bullets, and am kicking myself for letting myself run out.
I load them with 6 grains of AA#5, and the load just
makes holes where ever I want 'em, and if I just want one big hole, they do that
No leading, no problems, just a pure joy to load and shoot.
Thank you for an especially great product. I shoot a modified
3904 Smitty-Wesson and my range bud shoots them out of a .38 snubbie and loves
I did explain how to order from you so he'll stop bumming
Just wanted to let you know that this hillbilly (actually, we
prefer the term "Ozark Americans" thinks that your bullets just ROCK!!
Joe B. (03/21/11)
I wanted to let you know about some results I've obtained
with your bullets in the 41 magnum.
I started with the
170 grain bullet, and if you recall, you gave me an idea to try some
spray on lube in order to push them faster in the Marlin rifle. You were
right about the leading, but the difference was so negligible it wasn't
really an efficient use of time. As for velocity, in the 8 or 9 powders I
used, all with maximum charges, the moly slowed the bullets down with all
but one powder.
I used every magnum powder that I had on hand, and clocked
each one through 4, 10, and 20" barrels, both moly lubed and non-moly lubed.
I used this array of barrel lengths so I could see what I gained from one
length to the next, how many fps per inch from one to the next, etc.
I was able to conclude which powders burned more efficiently
at which barrel lengths, and which gave the most velocity at each length
with each powder, and how many fps per grain of powder as well.
With the data I collected I was able to make some practical
deductions concerning powder choice for the specific barrel length one was
planning to shoot the load out of. Some of the findings were extremely
surprising to say the least. One thing I found was that with all barrel
lengths, the highest velocity was with Enforcer. Comparing max charges of
even H-110, Enforcer was about 200 fps faster at 4", 150 at 10", and about
100 fps at 20". H-110 narrowed the gap as the length of barrel increased,
but never caught up. It was a shock to see something throw a slug faster
than H-110 or 296, which have always been the hot rod Magnum powders. The
biggest shock was with IMR 4227. It was about 100 fps faster than H-110 out
of the 4" but was way behind H-110 at 10". This told me if I want a magnum
load for a short barrel, 4227 might be the way to go, especially since it
wasn't that far behind Enforcer, with what seemed like noticeably less
muzzle blast. I think 4227 must peak a lot faster as it burns down the
length of the barrel. This was something I was able to learn about each
powder used. It also gave me the most consistent readings over the chrony next
to 2400 which might equate to good accuracy. But I think I found my new
Magnum load powder with Enforcer, when I feel like I need a real fire
breather that is.
I have shot some of your
210s recently but haven't had a lot of range time because of weather. I
just loaded 17 grains of IMR 4227 and shot a few groups with my custom 3".
Off hand, slow fire, at 21 feet they printed a tight one hole group. I can't
wait to spend some time at the range with this bullet. This summer I am
going to do the same experiment I did with the 170 grainer with the
210, since that is still the most common weight in the 41, and the previous
findings may or may not carry over to the 210.
Thanks for the great product.
I'm getting closer to the ever elusive "every day working
Demetrius C. (03/17/11)
Here's some load data, results and observations from a recent
Caliber 240 grain TCBB:
7 grains Trail Boss - 929 fps
16 grains Blue Dot - 1584 fps :: extremely accurate
23 grains H110 - 1472 fps :: this surprised me compared to
the Blue Dot
.44 Caliber 320 grain SSK:
23.5 grains H110 - 1456 fps :: very accurate, but has fliers
Trail Boss is also
producing some fliers but not to bothersome due to the fact I just plink with
them ... accuracy is good.
Blue Dot at 16 grains has produced, bar none, the most
consistent loads ... not one flier. I have both raised and lowered the charge
and 16 seems to be the sweet spot.
As for the H110, 23 grains is as close as I can get for a
sweet spot for this powder. Between 23.5 and 25 gr. accuracy is the worst of
anything I have tried.
I shoot quite a bit at a home made steel spinning target and
I have learned that your bullets are extremely hard (which I like). I have
recovered 16 of these that were used with Trail Boss powder. They hit the pate
and were recovered in the snow ... interestingly there was no deformation AT
ALL. The bullets, other than the bore marks, are still perfect. I can send them
to you if you think anything could be learned from them.
The plate I used today was 1/8 inch thick and the Blue Dot
load went right through it.
I did finally find a 3/4 plate that would stop the SSK but it
sure put a dent in it !!!!
I am very pleased with your bullet and the SSK will be my
I had a person tell me to seat it deeper to the top line and
use it as a crimp groove with 21.5 gr. H110. I haven't done it yet as I would
like to hear your thoughts on that first.
As far as the 240 goes I have been disappointed in my H110
results but absolutely amazed at the Blue Dot results.
You mention IMR4227 and I am interested in trying this but
hesitant to spend the money on a one use powder. With the results I'm getting
with Blue Dot could I expect better with the IMR ?
I know your busy and I’m glad to hear your health is getting
I just wanted to let you know how it was going since you put
the effort in to get me the right bullets for my Ruger.
Thank you again
Scott B. (02/23/11)
This was done with a Super Redhawk using an extended cylinder and the
bullet seated out to the farthest crimp groove.
Not responsible for load data as provided by others.)
I have loaded and shot some of your .45 caliber 200 grain TCPB bullets and the results are very satisfying.
I settled on a load for my 1911 of 4.7 grains of 231 (I will switch to Clays when 231 is used up) with an OAL of 1.250" using a 14 pound recoil spring.
I use this on steel plates and recovery time is fast.
Best of all, I get no leading.
Thanks for all the advice you gave me when answering my questions.
You have gained a new customer.
IN GOD WE TRUST
I received my 6,000 .38 caliber 148 grain DBBWC bullets over the weekend.
I loaded up some in .38 Special cases and about 3.3 grains of American Select.
Shooting a Colt Python 6 inch and so far so good!
Thanks for your quality product and shipping.
Andy R. (02/09/11)
I just received my first order of Penn bullets in the form of
and I am well pleased.
I may opt for .400 sizing in future. We'll see how these work
out in KAHR polygonal barrel. Care and attention with Lewis Lead Remover and
proper cleaning should be fine.
Bullets look great, shipping was prompt, and the price very
I just turned 66 years old and still shoot a lot.
I have cast many, many cast bullets myself starting in 1959.
I don’t cast anymore but do have “an eye” for a quality cast bullet.
I suspect I will become a regular customer of yours.
You got to have a
strong constitution to shoot this bullet (.44
320 TCBB SSK)!
23.5 H110 is what proved the most accurate.
Five shots in a chew can lid at 15 yards free hand.
I can't expect anymore than that !
You make a very impressive product !
Scott B. (01/23/11)
This was done with a Super Redhawk using an extended cylinder and the
bullet seated out to the farthest crimp groove.
Not responsible for load data as provided by others.)
I was throwing out some of my old files when I came across
this target. I thought you might appreciate seeing it. It was shot off-hand
from 25 yards at Miami Valley Shooting Grounds from a Freedom Arms Premier
Grade 7.5 inch barrel .454 Casull Revolver using the
Penn Truncated Cone
Bevel Base 300 Grain Bullet - 04/24/1990.
For the past several years I've been using your
350 grain Casull bullet. I think it's great. I only have a thousand or
so left so I'll be sending you an order for more of them soon.
Thanks for making great bullets!
Charles D. (01/15/11)
I hope all is well with you and yours.
Here's the results from chronographing your .45 Caliber 200 grain Truncated Cone bullet.
These were sized 0.454" to more closely match the large throats on my model 25-2.
I weighed a 20 piece sample to see how they stacked up and came up with an average weight of 205.99 grains.
So using 205 as a nominal weight I only need to get 805 fps to meet the IDPA power floor.
The bullets look great!
Accuracy is much improved over the last test, though I'm still at a loss to explain the low velocities.
Thanks for your help!
Little Meadows, PA (10/18/10)
Hope all is well.
Just wanted to let you know that I was fortunate enough to
win the SASS Northeast Regional Championship - The Mason Dixon Stampede IX -
using Penn Bullets!
The bullets continue to work smoothly through my guns and
were dead-on accurate.
Thanks again for such a great product!
Look forward to talking to you soon.
Rick Fox (Biloxi Bob) (10/16/10)
After months of tail chasing, fire lapping, polishing, barrel
"seasoning", trying various powders, etc. those .360" bullets you sent me tamed
the group size of this Blackhawk. It's dramatically better.
Thank you for accommodating me on that.
I'll put hard numbers to the improvement at some point, but
meanwhile I want to get an order placed with you.
Dennis S. (09/07/10)
I just wanted to report back to you what has been happening
with my leading issues in .357 and .44 and ask a couple questions.
I was using Missouri bullets in both these calibers and was
getting very bad leading issues.
I ordered some bullets from Penn and here is what I can
report back. In my .357, I have no leading whatsoever to speak of anymore,
One question I have for you is regarding the 10mm and lead
bullets. I'd like to give it a try in my G20. I know about the controversy
regarding lead bullets in a Glock barrel but I also know that many people shoot
lead bullets without an issue. I'd like to give it a try and was wondering if I
could order a "sample" pack to see if I encountered any issues. I really don't
want to buy an aftermarket barrel so if it won't work I'll just continue to use
jacketed bullets for now.
Please let me know if any of these requests are possible,
what you need from me, and thanks for a great product.
Gary B. (07/28/10)
I just wanted to let
you know how pleased I am with Penn Bullets.
As a Cowboy Action Shooter, I go through quite a few
rounds in both practice and matches.
I have been shooting your bullets in every major match
for nearly ten years and they have performed flawlessly and with great success!
I currently shoot the
.38 Caliber 125 Grain
TCBB bullets. They function very smoothly and have been
extremely reliable through my ’73 lever action rifle. In fact, I have never
had a malfunction using these bullets. They are also the most accurate bullets
I ever shot in my Cowboy guns.
When I shoot my .44mag Ruger Vaqueros, my
favorite bullet is the
.44 Caliber 180 Grain
TCBB. They recoil lightly but they’re spot-on accurate and have
no problems with any knock-down targets.
Thanks for making such a fantastic product! I look forward
to doing business with you again soon.
“Biloxi Bob” (07/25/10)
I just wanted to write and thank you for my
I ordered 250 of the
350 grain SSK for my
45colt and I am impressed.
I wish now I had ordered more and will shortly.
I am going to use them this weekend on a hogventure.
I checked the 75 that I loaded for the hunt and they were
within a grain +/- of each other and they were all uniform in shape and size.
They loaded easy and shot great.
I free handed the sighting in and @ 40 yards I had some three holers then would get excited and mess it up.
I am wondering if you have any objections if I am successful
this weekend if an article and maybe photos is published in a national magazine?
I just sent you an order for two bullets.
The first bullet is 2,000 of the
.45 caliber 200 grain SWCBB
Premium grade, standard size. I am almost out of a previous order of this
bullet. This is the best .45 bullet that I have ever shot. This will be my
standard 45 bullet from now on.
The second bullet is your
.44 caliber 200 grain
Grade, Special Size of .430". My 44/40 Marlin has a bore diameter of .4288".
Is .430" the right size to pick?
Roger C. (07/15/10)
I have just returned from shooting my first Penn bullets. I'm
thrilled. I am especially happy with the
.45 caliber Thunderhead.
Tonight I realized that I am a better shot than I had
thought. I had been plugging away for a couple of months and improvement in my
group sizes seemed to stop. I was frustrated. The truth is (I'm sure you could
guess this) that I was still improving my skill, but I couldn't tell with the
lousy bullets I was shooting.
Tonight I shot several groups very much like the fifteen shot
.45 caliber Ruger group you picture on your website.
It felt like I was shooting into a funnel.
I am writing to ask what the price would be for a 70 pound
box of the 270 grain .45 caliber Thunderhead bullets. I don't want to shoot
Thank you for making me feel like Annie Oakley.
Marlene H. (07/15/10)
I just want to tell you that the
information you have about every bullet you make is outstanding and it made
my decision a lot easier.
I looked at a lot of bullet company's websites and you are
second to none.
Plus the discounts you give to law enforcement, military and
disabled veterans is, well I can't say enough, you should be very proud of
what you do for them.
I look forward to using your outstanding products.
Thank you for your outstanding customer service.
David L. (07/06/10)
Received the final shipment of
I appreciate your good work and the bullets are great.
Loading them in the finicky 44-40 case was slick with
absolutely no problems.
Again, thanks for your fine bullets.
Your advice of crimping a
.45-caliber 200-grain SWCBB at .469" at an OAL of 1.25" was right on the
money - it's one of the most accurate loads I've ever used in a handgun.
My order of your
.45-caliber 230-grain TCBB bullets just arrived, and I'm wondering if
you have a magic formula for that one as well ...
John G. (06/11/10)
Hi Mr. Palermo:
I got my bullet order today (.32 caliber 95 grain SWCBB with
a diameter of .314")
and they are perfect.
They fit my cylinder just right, so I think I'll get some
good shooting from my .32-20 now.
Thank you very much.
Bill G. Sr. (05/15/10)
Here is a picture of my water buffalo I shot with my custom
420 grain cast bullet, propelled by 26 grains of H-110
for 1365 fps, did the trick.
Thanks for a well made bullet.
Please remember to send me 1000 next run.
Earle D. (05/11/10)
Hi Mr. Palermo:
I purchased some of your .357 bullets a while back and have
been shooting them. They were the
158 grain truncated cone
So far I have have shot about 500 of the 158s with 16 grains
of Hodgdon H110 and a Wolfe magnum primer.
I have given some to others loaded like that as well on the
range, smiles abound with a little adrenaline rush. Nice little kick and a
very accurate round. No leading at all with my S&W 4" 7 shot revolver.
I am a novice at pistol shooting but am gaining on my
accuracy. At a hundred yards I aimed at a 3" rock and hit it within 12 shots
with iron sights and a free stance. It was probably sheer luck but like
golf it will keep me coming back! The other shots were within a foot or
two all around based on the puffs of dust.
How many of the 158s will pack in a 70 pound box for
Thanks and best regards.
Dave M. (05/03/10)
Well guys, you are winners!!!
To remind you who I am; I picked up 1,000
grain RNFPBB bullets Wednesday morning along with some 9mm
I can’t believe I could wait till today to test fire the
.45’s but attached is my target with a 15 shot group at about 40' - off hand.
I’ve got to say I’m happy!!!!
I loaded the .45 Colts with 9 grains of Unique, CCI 300
primer in Starline Brass trimmed to length for consistent crimp; roll crimped
with my RCBS Cowboy crimping die then full length factory crimp die to size the
I’ll be back … and I shared where I got the bullets with
everybody at the range.
I’ve got to get some of those
SWCBB bullets for my .45 ACP and see how tight those make my groups.
Bill B. (04/15/100)
I just wanted to drop you a quick note
to tell you how pleased I am with one of your products.
I recently ordered some
.45 200 grain
SWCBB Match bullets from your company.
Yesterday My son and I went to the range with a test
batch of reloads to check feeding and firing reliability.
I loaded my rounds exactly in accordance with the
specifications on your web site.
Feeding in both my Springfield Operator and my son's
Kimber Compact Stainless was flawless and accuracy was superb.
Congratulations and continued success.
LTC Chester A. K. Jr.
U.S. Regular Army (Retired) (04/13/10)
Tried your bullets. I like 'em!
The 165 40's are definitely more accurate than the 180's I
have been using. Thank you for that!
9's and 45's are also good to go!
Pleasure doing business with you.
If I have any questions, I know who to call.
I have received the Ruger
.480 bullets and, as usual, you do
the best job, by far.
This is my second order and I am sure that it won't be my
Peter M. (02/05/10)
I just returned from the range where I tested your
9mm 115gr SWC.
I must say I was quite surprised to find that the bullet held
a 2.50" group at 50 yards.
I ran 25 rounds through the gun all with the same group
results. I think I can get it tighter.
If people ask I used the following recipe:
115gr Penn SWC
5.2 grains of
Case head to the
shoulder of the SWC .783"
Gun: SA 1911A1
Gunsmith performed various work to improve accuracy.
Thanks again fro a great job.
Great bullet! (185
Grain Double Bevel Base Wadcutter) Very smooth finish and lube with teeny
weight variation. I am getting very good groups at about 20 yards in my 50th
Anniversary Ruger Blackhawk.
I need to take a tool to the range next time to readjust
sights then I can tell you about point of impact stuff.
But I am happy.
BTW, I am shooting a light target load with 5.0 grains of
TiteGroup in 44 mag case.
I received my shipment yesterday - thank you very much.
The quality looks excellent.
I'm looking forward to getting these loaded and heading out
to the range.
Mike F. (07/10/09)
The match grade 45 SWCs are wonderful.
I shot in a 2700 Saturday and they held a really tight group at 50 and 25 yards.
I used Bulls Eye light load (3.8gr) and a C.O.L. of 1.250" and a crimp of .471".
Nice workmanship and consistency.
I'm going to do a little bench testing with some new loads and will let you know more about the ballistics.
Jim L. (07/10/09)
I have been using your bullets for a while now. What a great
I use your 38/158 for 38 special loads.
Can I push these around 1200fps in my 357?
If so, do you have any recommendations for powder type and
I have been using WSPM primers.
Mark W. (07/07/09)
I recently purchased 10,000 of Penn's
bullets in 44 and 45 caliber. I was amazed at what was delivered to my home.
Well packaged, quickly delivered and a VERY high quality
The average weight of 20 of the 44 cal 200 Grain RNFPBB was
slightly low (averaged 197 grains) but the weight of the 20 bullets that I
weighed varied only 1.2 grains in the extreme spread.
I took some Hornady 44 caliber 240 grain jacketed bullets
that I had and their weight variation was 0.7 grains in the extreme spread.
I am very impressed with Penn bullets.
Also the over all quality of the bullet is very good and the
lube ring completely full with no voids or gaps, NONE. So far I have loaded
several hundred and shot most. They have worked well and using them in 44
special and 45 ACP and long colt I have seen very little lead build up in
These people know how to make a very good product, if you buy
from them, you will be happy with your purchase.
Got my order of 12,000 158 gr .38 TCBB bullets today.
Thanks! -- As always the quality is excellent and I was pleasantly surprised on
how quick you were able to fill the order.
I'm an NRA Action Pistol Shooter and I'll be shooting your
bullets at the 2009 Bianchi Cup National Action Pistol Championship. Your
bullets are helping me move up in classification, just got my Expert
classification card in metallic sights division last week.
Andy R. (02/01/09)
I just received my order in the
mail. The shipping was fast and you were very helpful with my order. When
I opened the boxes the bullets looked great. They all had lube and none of
them were deformed that I could make out. The bullets look to be of great
quality and I will be ordering more from you when I run out of these.
David M. (06/03/08)
Wanted to thank you for a
good product that I ordered in .45 caliber
230 grain hardball for my 3” Para Ordnance. I have had no problems
with feed or leading using TiteGroup powder. Groups are the same with
carry load of Golden Sabers and at the increased cost of shooting I have
a great practice bullet.
D. R. - Reading
I just wanted to let you know that the
grain RNPB you make is right on the money. I love shooting my Springfield
Trapdoor and enjoy reloading. Your bullets are dead on. I would like to try to
get them closer to the bulls eye. Any suggestions? I have so far tried out the
two aforementioned loads and had good success with them but they seem to be
slightly high and to the right.
Brian D. B. (03/31/08)
Thank you for giving me the
discount. Your bullets have excellent accuracy. I cannot find any better
I have placed the order through the secure web site and filled out all the
information. If there is any question, email me.
Thanks again ….
California, USA (03/13/2008)
Just wanted to thank you for the recent bullet order that you shipped to me last
week. I ordered 10,000
.45 ACP 200Target Grade SWCBB.
The turn around time was much faster than I expected and the order arrived well
packed and in great condition.
The bullets look great and I will be loading some soon to try out.
Daniel R D. Jr
Chief Instructor Fenton Lakes Sportsman's Club
NRA Training Counselor
NRA Chief Range Safety Officer
Michigan, USA (02/20/08)
I just received my first order from you of
.38 158grain TCBB bullets.
I have to tell you that I am VERY impressed with their quality. I have not
had time to load them yet, but I am certain they will be excellent.
I have tried many brands of bullets believe me.
My order took a while, but it was well worth the wait.
Utah, USA (12/18/07)
By the way ....
your statement about the accuracy of these bullets wasn't brag. They
outshoot (for me anyway) the jacketed bullets I occasionally use. They're
going a ragged inch at 25 yards just putting my 629 between by legs in a
supported sitting position (when 59 year old eyes are up to the job that
Thanks much for your help.
Bluffton, Indiana (11/06/07)
Here's the 1600 lb. bull bison I shot near Hotchkiss,
Colorado last November. Using your 405 gr. .45-70 cast lead RNFP bullet over
37.0 grains of IMR 3031, I dropped the bull in his tracks from 80 yards.
The bullet entered his right shoulder, went through the lungs
and heart and exited the left shoulder. I never did find the bullet but
suffice to say it sure did the job.
The above load chrongraphed at 1700 fps. at the range in
Thanks again for making great bullets.
Pttsburgh, PA. (07/05/07)
I loaded your bullets for the
first time and took my new Beretta Storm Rifle to the range yesterday. I am
extremely impressed with your 40 cal. 180 grain RNFPBB bullets. They are very
accurate and the bullets themselves are very well made. I look forward to
shooting them again next week! Please see the attached target.
Feel free to post this on your site.
I received my order of 165 gr. 40 caliber bullets well ahead
of expected delivery time. They are a quality product and shoot great. I had
a talk with Bob when I placed the order. He was friendly and professional.
Given the rising costs of components Penn Bullets are still a bargain. I
doubt I can find bullets the quality of Penn's at the price I paid for them
any where else. I plan to try some rifle bullets next. Keep casting Bob!
New Paltz, NY (06/17/07)
wanted to tell you that my Marlin 44 magnum 1894 is shooting good. I had no luck
with other bullets except Hornadays at max velocity. Your 240 grain TCBB with
18.5 grains of IMR 4227 with a magnum primer shoots about one inch at 50 yards
with mild recoil. Now the micro grove barrel with your sized .432 44 magnum is
like a new rifle. From 18.5 grains to 21 grains the rifle shot the best it ever
shot with lead bullets.
Thanks Anthony G. - Staten Island New York
Received my .32 caliber SWCBB and I am
impressed. I compared them to my bullets from another manufacturer and
PennBullets beat them in every way. You are now my supplier for the Best
Daniel C. (03/12/07)
A response to this isn't necessary but wanted to let you know
I just got my first order. Fantastic bullets and everything done EXACTLY as
stated in your web site info. I'll need 44 bullets later this year but just
ordered more of the 38/158/TCBB ... I burn 38's by the buckets. If you ever
need a plug from a "nobody" in the handgun shooting world give me a call.
Your bullets are the best I've come across for quality, value for the dollar
and you do precisely what you say you will do. I don't think you can beat
It's time for another bullet order from us. Can you let us
know the price and delivery time for:
3000 .38 TC 125 grain
1500 .45 SWC 152 grain
1000 unsized, unlubed .45 RNFP 200 grain
By the way, I noticed on your website that your bullets were
used to win the Pennsylvania State match. Thought you might like to know
that we used your bullets to win this year's California State match (Top
Ladies Traditional and Top Men's Duelist) and the 2005 South Dakota State
match (Overall Lady and 1st place Men's Gunfighter)! It must have been the
bullets, right? :-)
Kara F. (12/27/06)
I just wanted to write to you and tell you of my utter amazement with the HIGH
quality castings of your Thunderhead bullets. I am thrilled with what arrived
and you can bet that you will have ALL, and I do mean ALL, of my cast bullet
purchases from this date forward. I am extremely pleased with the functioning of
the Thunderheads in my Ruger New Vaquero. They turn a more lightly built Ruger
into a hunting handgun to be reckoned with when dealing with the bayou hogs down
here. Also, this year Alabama has opened a season on Alligator, (very limited
number of tags). If I were to be so lucky as to make that draw, the Thunderhead
would be the bullet of choice for me.
There is one issue that I was saddened to note. Thunderheads will not chamber
in my late model Winchester '94 Trapper. I never expected them to feed, but had
hoped they would chamber for that all important first shot. You might want to
make a note of that on the web site. Also, feel free to use this email in any
way to promote your fine product. I'll send pictures of the first pig to fall!
Dear folks at Penn bullets,
I have been a bullseye shooter and casting my own bullets for
After trying a 1000 of your bullets, I think it is time to
stop casting my own and switch to yours.
I purchased the ones I tried from you at the Harrisburg gun
show. They were the 45 ACP 200 grain H&G 68 SWCBB.
Questions: Will you continue to be at the Harrisburg gun
Would you be able to supply me with say 3 to 5 thousand a
year with no trouble?
Are you going to be in business for say the next 10 years?
How much would it cost for shipping to have say 1000 rounds
sent to me at a time?
Any deals on sending larger quantities say 5000?
I am a Master Bullseye shooter, Pres. Hundred, Distinguished
and 2600 shooter.
This is a big step for me.
Your bullets seem as good as mine if not better!
I would be selling all my equipment and lead.
About 4 or 5 months ago, I ordered
some of your 340 grain SSK "Casull" plain base bullets. I had heard good
things about your bullets from others, but as an experienced bullet caster,
I really did not expect anything different than what I got with my heavy gaschecked Lyman and LBT moulds. I couldn't have been more
surprised. When I finally got around to shooting those
I loaded up in my 6 inch Casull, loaded with 24 grains of 2400, bore sighted
because I just mounted a new Burris scope, I shot the center ring out of
a 50 yard target with the first 5 rounds. I was astonished. I then moved
over to the 100 yard range, fired a sighter, corrected windage, and then
proceeded to fire a sub 3 inch group at 100 yards using the Burris ballistic
plex to get the correct elevation.
Now this is the first load I tried
with your bullets, with no load development at all. The only thing I requested
when I ordered these bullets was that they be sized to 452, since that
is what my cylinder throats are reamed to. With a bit of load development,
I bet I can yet improve on those 100 yard groups.
I am extremely pleased with this performance
and thank you for an excellent product.
I used one of your 320 grain SSK bullets
in my Ruger Super Redhawk (44 magnum) to kill an 8-point white tail buck
at 102 yards during my recent hunt in Texas. I measured the distance with
my laser range finder. The round hit the deer just behind the shoulder.
It center punched a rib on entry and center punched a rib on exit. The
exit wound may have been slightly larger than the entrance wound. Expansion
was minimal, and penetration was excellent. After he was hit, the deer
ran about 50 yards and collapsed.
I used new R-P brass and deburred
the flash holes. The bullet was seated all the way out (2nd crimping groove).
I used 22.5 grains of Winchester 296, a CCI 350 Large Pistol Magnum primer,
and 3/4 turn on my Lee Carbide Factory Crimp Die for a fairly tight crimp.
This load clocked 1,360 feet per second from my 7.5" Super Redhawk. Early
in my experiments with this bullet, I tried a 23.0 grain load of W296,
and this one clocked 1,382 feet per second. Obviously, the 22.5 grain load
was ample for the task.
The Ruger is equipped with a 4X Leupold
scope. The secret is holding the beast still and keeping the same grip
of the weapon for each shot.
Leading of the barrel during my practice
time at the range was not severe and cleaning was not a big problem. To
clean the barrel, I used a dry bore brush with a piece of "Chore Boy" copper
sponge wrapped around it. After a few strokes, the barrel was clean.
As you told me it would, your bullet
Had to let you know that your bullets
performed great and your recommendation to use XMP-5744 was right on the
money. I couldn't be happier. I worked up a load with your 500 grain PBRN
and settled on 28.0 grains of 5744. The other loads were all almost identical
in group size, but the 28.0 grain load was the highest I tried and it had
the flattest trajectory as well as the tightest group. Out of a 5 shot
group, at 100 yards, the first three grouped about 0.5" and the last two
opened the group up to just over 1". That's at 100 yards with a tang sight.
I am hooked on your bullets and will be ordering more soon (my order of
250 is dwindling fast). Thanks for a great product as well as useful information
on powder selection.
I am planning on trying black powder
in my Sharps this winter. I would like to shoot the same bullet with SPG
lube. Do you think this bullet is too hard to black powder?
Just fired the Sharps using your bullets
and the new load (5744 AA powder) you recommended. Wow what a difference!
Got a nice cloverleaf the first three out of the pipe. Consistently groups
into 2 inches at 100 yards. Can't wait to venture into the woods with it.
One last question for a while. Do
you have a ballistic coefficient calculated for this bullet? I could probably
figure something out, but I am lazy with math! Wanted to run a ballistic
chart on the computer for trajectory and sighting in.
Hope to place another order in January!
Sharps .45/70 500 grain LFPRN Penn
The bullets worked perfect. I put
together a load with 5.5 grain W231 and your bullet in the 32-20 Winchester
that worked great. I estimated the velocity to be around 1150 to 1200 fps.
This load would shoot around 2" at 50 yards. It was the first one I tried
and it worked well enough for what he needed. Attached is a picture of
my friend, John D. and a 6'4", 120# female mountain lion that was harvested
in CO. The first round entered the front right shoulder and penetrated
nearly the entire body length then lodged in the left rear ham. The lion
jumped from the tree and ran to about 80 yards when John shot her again
in the lungs. A minute later she expired. The bullet from the ham was recovered
and looks nearly new with only a little nick on the nose.
Thanks! I'll see what I can put together for an article
on the web site.
See you at the next gun show.
Got my 2.5 K bullets order and have
loaded and fired 250. I got a 100 % acceptance rate in the go/no go gage
and no rejects in the feeding/firing. This is much better than your competitor's.
I have found my new permanent bullet supply house. I am a customer for
It's been about six months now, since
I purchased the 50,000 from you. I am sorry for not contacting you sooner.
Our bullseye season is well under way and we've done substantial testing
of your bullets. I can't say enough good about them. They shoot great.
Fabulous groups, and "no leading" of the barrels. I have converted many
of the old Star bullet shooters, and I may be putting together a purchase
in July for pick up on my way back from Camp Perry. Let know what the current
pricing is for the 180 gr. .45 in the match grade. I'll work on the quality
and let you know. I've got buyers for approximately 25,000 now. I'll see
if I can't double that by July.
Thanks for a great product
Hope you are doing well.
The last price in November, 2004 was $40.00 / 1000 for your
match grade 180 grain .45's. I got 50,000 then.
So far, I've got orders for 30,000. I am leaving for Camp
Perry on the 11th. I'll confirm the final figure before I leave and let you
know. I'll probably try to make the pick up on the 18th on my way back from
Ohio. I'll send you a check before I leave for the final count.
Also, the shooters are very pleased with your bullets, and
scores for most have gone up since they switched from the Stars.
I've gotten several ransom rest groups as small as 1-1/2
inches. Barrel leading is minimal. Leading was a big problem with the Stars.
I've been shooting a Beretta 92FS for about 6
months. I've shot factory ammo and reloaded bullets from a couple of companies
and have been somewhat disappointed with the accuracy. I realize that a combat
pistol is not a precision shooter, but still ... I've put a couple hundred
rounds of your 120 grain TC with 4 grains of Red Dot through my pistol now and
have gotten the gun to shoot 2-21/2” groups at 25 yards (from a rest of course);
this is considerably better than anything else that I have reloaded or shot. You
have earned yourself a satisfied customer.
I'm gonna tell you some-um about your 38 caliber 100 grain WC
Synopsis: First I wanna
tell you that they are excellent; specifically, all that I weighed were 105.5
grains; within plus or minus 1/2 grain; very important as in "accuracy". Nice
sprue plate cut off. Well filled out and not distorted via over sizing. The
lubricant grooves are completely filled and no lube on top or bottom. Ideally
sized to .358"
Note: I was the instructor
after graduation from the PA. Gun Smith School and taught / graded bullet
Post Script: Don't mail the
100 grain swaged HBWC to me. I'll probably catch you at one of the gun shows.
Hope it's one with a good kitchen!
I am, George D. S. and fraternally yours.